How strange that you could not comment on the Huffington Post site, I don’t know why the comments are closed.

In response to your comments, the point of the article was that the Birdcage is for all ages and that’s why the pornography is inappropriate. I am a parent to a toddler and I do not want her in an establishment that thinks it is fun and witty to present women as sexual objects so explicitly.

I disagree with your comments and thoughts about women’s bodies and how their objectification as sexual for men’s pleasure is a normal and positive thing. However, I did not write about pornography but about this specific cafe. From your first comment I believe we are in agreement about that at least.

For further discussion you are welcome to visit my website and the original post http://www.ephemeraldigest.co.uk/2012/09/when-did-spread-eagled-naked-women-become-a-selling-point-for-a-cafe/.

Thank you for the discussion.

Joanna Papageorgiou : “graphic images of a woman’s body in provocative poses”
I feel like discussing with somebody out from the 1950′s. In the adult entertainment, Playboy is one of the most respectful with women. If nude pictures are “provocative” only because they are nude, what should we think about nude sculptures and paintings that are considered as Art. It looks like Mrs Papageorgiou never open any other adult magazines in her life cause many other magazines are “provocative” in their nude representation of women, using close shots of open pussy, fingers in pussy and even toys. Never did Playboy.

Joanna Papageorgiou : “They are not looking at the woman behind the breasts.”
First look at a woman for some may be the breast, for others it could be the eyes, the hair dress… Adult magazines are unfortunately made for the first look but once again, Playboy, compare to other magazines, provides a bio of its models to its readers and online members to go further than the first look, and many readers and members would be pleased to go further and have a date with the model to better know “the woman behind the breast” but you should agree that models are for modelling not for dating otherwise there’s another name to use and I could follow Mrs Papageorgiou if she wants to argue against call girls.

Joanna Papageorgiou : “There is further research about the effect of pornography on children but maybe this isn’t of interest to the Birdcage either.”
An article starting with nude pictures of Playboy and finishing with pornography looks odd and offending to me. Especially because I have kids and I’m taking care of them. It means the family computer has a “parental control” that avoids them seeing internet pages a lot more harmful than nude women. Obviously with my 13yo boy growing up, I’m not dumb and know he will soon be able to avoid the parental control if he wants. That’s why I will teach him (as my mother taught me) why men are attracted by women and how to be respectful with the girls he will be in love with.

If Mrs Papageorgiou wants to fight against porn on magazines or on the net, I could agree with her but not with using arguments as nude pictures of women, especially Playboy pictures.
When you argue against pornography you should never forget why many men are attracted by porn. If men weren’t sexually attracted by women we won’t be here to discuss it and humankind would have already disappeared. So when you want to fight against pornography you should fight the “how” rather than the “why”. May be that will be another debate with Mrs Papageorgiou.